{"id":5410,"date":"2022-11-21T14:22:55","date_gmt":"2022-11-21T14:22:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/localization.news\/uncategorized\/fool-post-editing-nebo-existuje-full-post-editing\/"},"modified":"2022-11-24T13:18:16","modified_gmt":"2022-11-24T13:18:16","slug":"fool-post-editing-nebo-existuje-full-post-editing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/localization.news\/cs\/technologie-cs\/fool-post-editing-nebo-existuje-full-post-editing\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8222;Fool Post-editing&#8220;, nebo existuje &#8222;Full Post-Editing&#8220;?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n<p>Jakub Absolon vede <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asap-translation.cz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">p\u0159ekladatelskou spole\u010dnost ASAP<\/a> ji\u017e dvacet let. Je fanou\u0161kem nov\u00fdch technologi\u00ed a m\u00e1 doktor\u00e1t z posteditace strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ve sv\u00e9m <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/ldDJ5FcVjlk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00edm videu<\/a> se \u0159editel p\u0159ekladatelsk\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti ASAP-translation.com, v\u011bnuje t\u00e9matu zcela posteditace strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu (Full Post-Editing). Na za\u010d\u00e1tku tohoto videa klade d\u016fle\u017eitou ot\u00e1zku: \u201eStalo se v\u00e1m n\u011bkdy, \u017ee se na v\u00e1s obr\u00e1til z\u00e1kazn\u00edk s po\u017eadavkem na posteditaci strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu, a kdy\u017e jste se ho zeptali, jakou kvalitu v\u00fdstupn\u00edho textu pot\u0159ebuje, \u0159ekl \u201eFull Post-Editing\u201c, co\u017e znamen\u00e1 , \u017ee p\u0159eklad by se m\u011bl p\u0159ibli\u017eovat kvalit\u011b lidsk\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pokud ano, mo\u017en\u00e1 jste se zamysleli nad t\u00edm, jak\u00fd je rozd\u00edl mezi b\u011b\u017en\u00fdm p\u0159ekladem, tedy takzvan\u00fdm lidsk\u00fdm p\u0159ekladem a \u00faplnou posteditac\u00ed strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu. Porovnejme proces vytv\u00e1\u0159en\u00ed p\u0159ekladu v obou p\u0159\u00edpadech.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150.png\" alt=\"n\u00e1sledn\u00e9 \u00fapravy\" class=\"wp-image-5353\" width=\"1023\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150.png 845w, https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150-300x156.png 300w, https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150-768x398.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1023px) 100vw, 1023px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Cel\u00fd rozd\u00edl je tedy v tom, \u017ee jeden v\u00fdsledek naz\u00fdv\u00e1me \u201elidsk\u00fd p\u0159eklad HT\u201c a druh\u00fd \u201et\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 lidsk\u00fd p\u0159eklad\u201c (HT). Av\u0161ak nikdo nev\u00ed, co slovo \u201et\u00e9m\u011b\u0159\u201c znamen\u00e1. Text p\u0159ekl\u00e1d\u00e1 tat\u00e1\u017e osoba pomoc\u00ed stejn\u00fdch n\u00e1stroj\u016f a po\u017eadovan\u00e1 kvalita je vlastn\u011b stejn\u00e1. Jedin\u00fd rozd\u00edl je v cen\u011b p\u0159ekladu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Absolon nezpochyb\u0148uje p\u0159\u00ednos MT, ani netvrd\u00ed, \u017ee posteditace neexistuje. <strong>Posteditace MT je odstran\u011bn\u00ed kritick\u00fdch chyb z v\u00fdstupu strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu za p\u0159edpokladu p\u0159esn\u011b definovan\u00e9ho po\u017eadavku na kvalitu v\u00fdstupn\u00edho textu. <\/strong>P\u0159ekladatel, nebo jinak \u0159e\u010deno postredaktor, m\u00e1 p\u0159esn\u00e9 pokyny, kter\u00e9 chyby si m\u00e1 v\u0161imnout a opravit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Fool PEMT\" width=\"1320\" height=\"743\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ldDJ5FcVjlk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-huge-font-size wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-jak-rozdelit-preklad-z-hlediska-pouziti-mt\">Jak rozd\u011blit p\u0159eklad z hlediska pou\u017eit\u00ed MT?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Na z\u00e1klad\u011b p\u0159edchoz\u00edch zji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed proto Jakub Absolon navrhuje z\u00e1kladn\u00ed rozd\u011blen\u00ed p\u0159ekladu z pohledu interakce po\u010d\u00edta\u010de a \u010dlov\u011bka do t\u0159\u00ed kategori\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Strojov\u00fd p\u0159eklad MT<\/strong> \u2013 M\u00e1me hrub\u00fd v\u00fdstup z MT a nikdo tento p\u0159eklad neupravoval. Proto nem\u016f\u017eeme zaru\u010dit jeho kvalitu.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Posteditovan\u00fd strojov\u00fd p\u0159eklad PEMT<\/strong> \u2013 MT p\u0159edem p\u0159elo\u017een\u00fd text, upraven\u00fd p\u0159ekladatelem. P\u0159eklada\u010d odstra\u0148uje p\u0159esn\u011b definovan\u00e9 chyby dle po\u017eadavku klienta. Takov\u00fd p\u0159eklad by na 90 % nem\u011bl obsahovat kritick\u00e9 chyby, ale aby se splnil po\u017eadavek n\u00edzk\u00e9 ceny a vysok\u00e9 rychlosti, st\u00e1le existuje ur\u010dit\u00e1 \u201e\u0161ance\u201c, \u017ee se vyskytne n\u011bjak\u00e1 nestylistick\u00e1 chyba, i kdy\u017e riziko je v\u00fdrazn\u011b ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e u MT.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Lidsk\u00fd p\u0159eklad<\/strong> \u2013 text p\u0159elo\u017een\u00fd profesion\u00e1ln\u00edm p\u0159ekladatelem, kter\u00fd p\u0159i sv\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 aktu\u00e1ln\u00edch p\u0159ekladatelsk\u00fdch zdroj\u016f v\u010detn\u011b TM, TB a MT.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-huge-font-size wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-co-se-tyce-ceny-je-prirozene-ze\">Co se t\u00fd\u010de ceny, je p\u0159irozen\u00e9, \u017ee&#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Z pohledu cenotvorby vid\u00ed Absolon p\u0159eklady n\u00e1sledovn\u011b:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MT je nejlevn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed forma p\u0159ekladu, proto\u017ee je nejrychlej\u0161\u00ed, m\u00e1 nejni\u017e\u0161\u00ed vstupn\u00ed n\u00e1klady na vytvo\u0159en\u00ed p\u0159ekladu a p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm \u201enikdo\u201c nen\u00ed zodpov\u011bdn\u00fd za p\u0159elo\u017een\u00fd text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>PEMT n\u00e1sleduje, proto\u017ee d\u016fvodem vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed takov\u00e9 slu\u017eby je sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed ceny a rychlej\u0161\u00ed doba dod\u00e1n\u00ed. P\u0159ekladatel ji\u017e nese zodpov\u011bdnost za v\u00fdsledek, ale rozhodn\u011b by odpov\u011bdnost nem\u011bla b\u00fdt toto\u017en\u00e1 jako p\u0159i b\u011b\u017en\u00e9m tzv. lidsk\u00e9m p\u0159ekladu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b lidsk\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu je cena op\u011bt subjektem dohody a p\u0159ekladatel m\u016f\u017ee zohlednit nap\u0159. opakuj\u00edc\u00ed se text. Ale iv p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b zjevn\u011b dobr\u00fdch v\u00fdsledk\u016f MT, lze zohlednit p\u0159edpokl\u00e1dan\u00e9 rychlej\u0161\u00ed tempo p\u0159ekladu. Na rozd\u00edl od 100 % shody z TM je kvalita MT zalo\u017eena pouze na p\u0159edpokladu, a proto i p\u0159\u00edpadn\u00e1 dohodnut\u00e1 sleva je zalo\u017eena pouze na odhadu nebo na z\u00e1klad\u011b vzorku p\u0159elo\u017een\u00e9ho textu. Av\u0161ak ani takov\u00fd vzorek n\u00e1m p\u0159esn\u011b ne\u0159ekne, jak se bude v p\u0159eklada\u010di chovat n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed text. V na\u0161em odv\u011btv\u00ed jsme v\u0161ak ji\u017e zvykl\u00ed na podobn\u00e9 odhady slev p\u0159i tzv. \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00fdch shod\u00e1ch (fuzzy matcch) z TM, kde tak\u00e9 neum\u00edme p\u0159edpov\u011bd\u011bt, nakolik bude \u201e\u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00e1 shoda\u201c p\u0159ekladateli n\u00e1pomocn\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-zaver\">Z\u00e1v\u011br<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Podle n\u011bkolika pr\u016fzkum\u016f v\u011bt\u0161ina p\u0159ekladatel\u016f pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 strojov\u00fd p\u0159eklad jako jeden z n\u00e1stroj\u016f p\u0159i sv\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci a nen\u00ed na tom nic \u0161patn\u00e9ho. Kvalita jejich pr\u00e1ce by se m\u011bla hodnotit podle kvality kone\u010dn\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu, nikoli podle zp\u016fsobu, jak\u00fdm na n\u011bm pracovali. P\u0159i sv\u00e9 pr\u00e1ci pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed zejm\u00e9na generick\u00e9 p\u0159eklada\u010de. Pokud si z\u00e1kazn\u00edk zajist\u00ed vlastn\u00ed specializovan\u00fd p\u0159eklada\u010d, kter\u00fd dosahuje v\u00fdrazn\u011b lep\u0161\u00edch v\u00fdsledk\u016f, je p\u0159im\u011b\u0159en\u00e9 po\u017eadovat za tuto slu\u017ebu ur\u010ditou finan\u010dn\u00ed kompenzaci. Je v\u0161ak t\u0159eba vyu\u017e\u00edt tzv. princip win-win, kter\u00fd p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00ed prosp\u011bch ob\u011bma stran\u00e1m. Pokud z\u00e1kazn\u00edk pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 b\u011b\u017en\u011b dostupn\u00fd obecn\u00fd p\u0159eklada\u010d, kter\u00fd m\u00e1 \u010dasto k dispozici i p\u0159ekladatel, kompenzace za p\u0159edb\u011b\u017en\u00fd p\u0159eklad textu nen\u00ed podle autora na m\u00edst\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pros\u00edm, nezpochyb\u0148ujte pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed MT, jak to ud\u011blali mnoz\u00ed p\u0159ekladatel\u00e9 s technologi\u00ed p\u0159ekladov\u00fdch pam\u011bt\u00ed TM p\u0159ed n\u011bkolika lety. MT je tady, je to vynikaj\u00edc\u00ed pomocn\u00edk pro p\u0159ekladatele, jako\u017e i pro z\u00e1kazn\u00edky, kte\u0159\u00ed pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed rychl\u00e9 a levn\u00e9 p\u0159eklady. Bra\u0148me se v\u0161ak tomu, aby n\u00e1s n\u011bkdo nutil p\u0159evz\u00edt zodpov\u011bdnost za takzvan\u00e9 p\u0159eklady, a br\u00e1nme se proti tomu, aby n\u011bkdo p\u0159eklad, za kter\u00fd jsme pln\u011b zodpov\u011bdn\u00ed, nazval MT post-editac\u00ed jen proto, \u017ee pou\u017eil funkci p\u0159edp\u0159elo\u017een\u00ed (pretranslate). Proto by bylo mo\u017eno l\u00e9pe nazvat tuto slu\u017ebu \u201eFool Post-editing\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dal\u0161\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nky najdete na na\u0161\u00ed <a href=\"https:\/\/localization.news\/cs\/novinky-ze-sveta-lokalizace\/\">str\u00e1nce<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jakub Absolon vede p\u0159ekladatelskou spole\u010dnost ASAP ji\u017e dvacet let. Je fanou\u0161kem nov\u00fdch technologi\u00ed a m\u00e1 doktor\u00e1t z posteditace strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu. Ve sv\u00e9m nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00edm videu se \u0159editel p\u0159ekladatelsk\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti ASAP-translation.com, v\u011bnuje t\u00e9matu zcela posteditace strojov\u00e9ho p\u0159ekladu (Full Post-Editing). Na za\u010d\u00e1tku tohoto videa klade d\u016fle\u017eitou ot\u00e1zku: \u201eStalo se v\u00e1m n\u011bkdy, \u017ee se na v\u00e1s obr\u00e1til z\u00e1kazn\u00edk s [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":5394,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[104,103,97],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v21.4 (Yoast SEO v22.8) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Existuj\u00ed &quot;\u00fapln\u00fd Post-Editing&quot;?- Localization.NEWS<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Jakub Absolon, \u0159editel p\u0159ekladatelsk\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti ASAP, se ve sv\u00e9m nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00edm videu v\u011bnuje t\u00e9matu Full Post-Editing.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" 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