{"id":5414,"date":"2022-11-21T14:22:55","date_gmt":"2022-11-21T14:22:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/localization.news\/uncategorized\/fool-post-editing-alebo-existuje-full-post-editing\/"},"modified":"2022-11-24T13:38:59","modified_gmt":"2022-11-24T13:38:59","slug":"fool-post-editing-alebo-existuje-full-post-editing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/localization.news\/sk\/technologie\/fool-post-editing-alebo-existuje-full-post-editing\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8222;Fool Post-editing&#8220; alebo existuje &#8222;Full Post-Editing&#8220;?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n<p>Jakub Absolon vedie <a href=\"https:\/\/asap-translation.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">prekladate\u013esk\u00fa spolo\u010dnos\u0165 ASAP<\/a> u\u017e dvadsa\u0165 rokov. Je fan\u00fa\u0161ikom nov\u00fdch technol\u00f3gi\u00ed a m\u00e1 doktor\u00e1t z postedit\u00e1cie strojov\u00e9ho prekladu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vo svojom <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/ldDJ5FcVjlk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">najnov\u0161om videu<\/a> sa riadite\u013e prekladate\u013eskej spolo\u010dnosti ASAP-translation.com, venuje t\u00e9me \u00faplne postedit\u00e1cie strojov\u00e9ho prekladu (Full Post-Editing). Na za\u010diatku tohto videa kladie d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fa ot\u00e1zku: &#8222;Stalo sa v\u00e1m niekedy, \u017ee sa na v\u00e1s obr\u00e1til z\u00e1kazn\u00edk s po\u017eiadavkou na postedit\u00e1ciu strojov\u00e9ho prekladu, a ke\u010f ste sa ho op\u00fdtali, ak\u00fa kvalitu v\u00fdstupn\u00e9ho textu potrebuje, povedal &#8222;Full Post-Editing&#8220;, \u010do znamen\u00e1, \u017ee preklad by sa mal pribli\u017eova\u0165 kvalite \u013eudsk\u00e9ho prekladu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ak \u00e1no, mo\u017eno ste sa zamysleli aj nad t\u00fdm, ak\u00fd je rozdiel medzi be\u017en\u00fdm prekladom, teda takzvan\u00fdm \u013eudsk\u00fdm prekladom a \u00faplnou postedit\u00e1ciou strojov\u00e9ho prekladu. Porovnajme proces vytv\u00e1rania prekladu v oboch pr\u00edpadoch. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150.png\" alt=\"n\u00e1sledn\u00e9 \u00fapravy\" class=\"wp-image-5353\" width=\"1023\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150.png 845w, https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150-300x156.png 300w, https:\/\/localization.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/Snimka-obrazovky-2022-11-21-141150-768x398.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1023px) 100vw, 1023px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Cel\u00fd rozdiel je teda v tom, \u017ee jeden v\u00fdsledok naz\u00fdvame &#8222;\u013eudsk\u00fd preklad HT&#8220; a druh\u00fd &#8222;takmer \u013eudsk\u00fd preklad&#8220; (HT). Av\u0161ak nikto nevie, \u010do slovo &#8222;takmer&#8220; znamen\u00e1. Text preklad\u00e1 <strong>t\u00e1 ist\u00e1 osoba<\/strong> pomocou <strong>t\u00fdch ist\u00fdch n\u00e1strojov<\/strong> a <strong>po\u017eadovan\u00e1 kvalita je vlastne rovnak\u00e1<\/strong>. Jedin\u00fd rozdiel je v cene prekladu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Absolon nespochyb\u0148uje pr\u00ednos MT, ani netvrd\u00ed, \u017ee postedit\u00e1cia neexistuje. Postedit\u00e1cia MT je odstr\u00e1nenie kritick\u00fdch ch\u00fdb z v\u00fdstupu strojov\u00e9ho prekladu za predpokladu presne definovanej po\u017eiadavky na kvalitu v\u00fdstupn\u00e9ho textu. Prekladate\u013e, alebo inak povedan\u00e9 postredaktor, m\u00e1 presn\u00e9 pokyny, ktor\u00e9 chyby si m\u00e1 v\u0161imn\u00fa\u0165 a opravi\u0165. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Fool PEMT\" width=\"1320\" height=\"743\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ldDJ5FcVjlk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-huge-font-size wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-ako-rozdelit-preklad-z-hladiska-pouzitia-mt\">Ako rozdeli\u0165 preklad z h\u013eadiska pou\u017eitia MT?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Na z\u00e1klade predch\u00e1dzaj\u00facich zisten\u00ed preto Jakub Absolon navrhuje z\u00e1kladn\u00e9 rozdelenie prekladu z poh\u013eadu interakcie po\u010d\u00edta\u010da a \u010dloveka do troch kateg\u00f3ri\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Strojov\u00fd preklad MT<\/strong> &#8211; M\u00e1me hrub\u00fd v\u00fdstup z MT a nikto tento preklad neupravoval. Preto nem\u00f4\u017eeme zaru\u010di\u0165 jeho kvalitu.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Posteditovan\u00fd strojov\u00fd preklad PEMT<\/strong> &#8211; MT vopred prelo\u017een\u00fd text, upraven\u00fd prekladate\u013eom. Preklada\u010d odstra\u0148uje presne definovan\u00e9 chyby pod\u013ea po\u017eiadavky klienta. Tak\u00fdto preklad by na 90 % nemal obsahova\u0165 kritick\u00e9 chyby, ale aby sa splnila po\u017eiadavka n\u00edzkej ceny a vysokej r\u00fdchlosti, st\u00e1le existuje ur\u010dit\u00e1 &#8222;\u0161anca&#8220;, \u017ee sa vyskytne nejak\u00e1 ne\u0161tylistick\u00e1 chyba, aj ke\u010f riziko je v\u00fdrazne ni\u017e\u0161ie ako pri MT.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>\u013dudsk\u00fd preklad<\/strong> &#8211; text prelo\u017een\u00fd profesion\u00e1lnym prekladate\u013eom, ktor\u00fd pri svojej pr\u00e1ci vyu\u017e\u00edva aktu\u00e1lne prekladate\u013esk\u00e9 zdroje vr\u00e1tane TM, TB a MT.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-huge-font-size wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-pokial-ide-o-cenu-je-prirodzene-ze\">Pokia\u013e ide o cenu, je prirodzen\u00e9, \u017ee&#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Z poh\u013eadu cenotvorby vid\u00ed Absolon preklady nasledovne:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MT je najlacnej\u0161ia forma prekladu, preto\u017ee je najr\u00fdchlej\u0161ia, m\u00e1 najni\u017e\u0161ie vstupn\u00e9 n\u00e1klady na vytvorenie prekladu a predov\u0161etk\u00fdm &#8222;nikto&#8220; nie je zodpovedn\u00fd za prelo\u017een\u00fd text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>PEMT nasleduje, preto\u017ee <strong>d\u00f4vodom vyu\u017e\u00edvania takejto slu\u017eby je zn\u00ed\u017eenie ceny a r\u00fdchlej\u0161\u00ed \u010das dodania<\/strong>. Prekladate\u013e u\u017e nesie zodpovednos\u0165 za v\u00fdsledok, ale rozhodne by zodpovednos\u0165 nemala by\u0165 toto\u017en\u00e1 ako pri be\u017enom tzv. \u013eudskom preklade.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>V pr\u00edpade \u013eudsk\u00e9ho prekladu je cena op\u00e4\u0165 subjektom dohody a prekladate\u013e m\u00f4\u017ee zoh\u013eadni\u0165 napr. opakuj\u00faci sa text. Ale aj v pr\u00edpade zjavne dobr\u00fdch v\u00fdsledkov MT, mo\u017eno zoh\u013eadni\u0165 predpokladan\u00e9 r\u00fdchlej\u0161ie tempo prekladu. Na rozdiel od 100 % zhody z TM je kvalita MT zalo\u017een\u00e1 len na predpoklade, a preto aj pr\u00edpadn\u00e1 dohodnut\u00e1 z\u013eava je zalo\u017een\u00e1 len na odhade, alebo na z\u00e1klade vzorky prelo\u017een\u00e9ho textu. Av\u0161ak ani tak\u00e1to vzorka n\u00e1m presne nepovie, ako sa bude v preklada\u010di spr\u00e1va\u0165 nasleduj\u00faci text. V na\u0161om odvetv\u00ed sme v\u0161ak u\u017e zvyknut\u00ed na podobn\u00e9 odhady zliav pri tzv. \u010diasto\u010dn\u00fdch zhod\u00e1ch (fuzzy matcch) z TM, kde tie\u017e nevieme predpoveda\u0165, nako\u013eko bude &#8222;\u010diasto\u010dn\u00e1 zhoda&#8220; prekladate\u013eovi n\u00e1pomocn\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-huge-font-size wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-zaver\">Z\u00e1ver<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Pod\u013ea viacer\u00fdch prieskumov v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina prekladate\u013eov pou\u017e\u00edva strojov\u00fd preklad ako jeden z n\u00e1strojov pri svojej pr\u00e1ci a nie je na tom ni\u010d zl\u00e9. Kvalita ich pr\u00e1ce by sa mala hodnoti\u0165 pod\u013ea kvality kone\u010dn\u00e9ho prekladu, nie pod\u013ea sp\u00f4sobu, ak\u00fdm na \u0148om pracovali. Pri svojej pr\u00e1ci pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00fa najm\u00e4 generick\u00e9 preklada\u010de. Ak si z\u00e1kazn\u00edk zabezpe\u010d\u00ed vlastn\u00fd \u0161pecializovan\u00fd preklada\u010d, ktor\u00fd dosahuje v\u00fdrazne lep\u0161ie v\u00fdsledky, je primeran\u00e9 po\u017eadova\u0165 za t\u00fato slu\u017ebu ur\u010dit\u00fa finan\u010dn\u00fa kompenz\u00e1ciu. Je v\u0161ak potrebn\u00e9 vyu\u017ei\u0165 tzv. princ\u00edp win-win, ktor\u00fd prin\u00e1\u0161a prospech obom stran\u00e1m. Ak z\u00e1kazn\u00edk pou\u017e\u00edva be\u017ene dostupn\u00fd v\u0161eobecn\u00fd preklada\u010d, ktor\u00fd m\u00e1 \u010dasto k dispoz\u00edcii aj prekladate\u013e, kompenz\u00e1cia za predbe\u017en\u00fd preklad textu nie je pod\u013ea autora na mieste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pros\u00edm, nespochyb\u0148ujte pou\u017e\u00edvanie MT, ako to urobili mnoh\u00ed prekladatelia s technol\u00f3giou prekladov\u00fdch pam\u00e4t\u00ed TM pred nieko\u013ek\u00fdmi rokmi. MT je tu, je to vynikaj\u00faci pomocn\u00edk pre prekladate\u013eov, ako aj pre z\u00e1kazn\u00edkov, ktor\u00ed potrebuj\u00fa r\u00fdchle a lacn\u00e9 preklady. Br\u00e1\u0148me sa v\u0161ak tomu, aby n\u00e1s niekto n\u00fatil prevzia\u0165 zodpovednos\u0165 za takzvan\u00e9 preklady, a br\u00e1\u0148me sa proti tomu, aby niekto preklad, za ktor\u00fd sme plne zodpovedn\u00ed, nazval MT post-edit\u00e1ciou len preto, \u017ee pou\u017eil funkciu predprelo\u017eenia (pretranslate). Preto by bolo mo\u017eno lep\u0161ie nazva\u0165 t\u00fato slu\u017ebu &#8222;Fool Post-editing&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u010eal\u0161ie \u010dl\u00e1nky n\u00e1jdete na na\u0161ej <a href=\"https:\/\/localization.news\/sk\/novinky-zo-sveta-lokalizacie\/\">str\u00e1nke<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jakub Absolon vedie prekladate\u013esk\u00fa spolo\u010dnos\u0165 ASAP u\u017e dvadsa\u0165 rokov. 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